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[Edward's been seeing all of these different posts come up. It's obnoxious to him, but he can see the potential of being able to communicate with so many like this, so he decided to give it a try.]

It's come to my attention that there's a few people here who use "magic." From what I've seen, there's nothing like it where I come from and I have a few questions for anyone who's willing to answer. In science, you've got different laws that everything follows. Is that the same for magic? Does some magic have laws while others don't? Are there different fields of magic? What are they? Where does the energy or power come from? What makes it "magic" and not a field of science?

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[One big, cat-like stretch before she settled back in her seat.]

Well, that all depends on the world, really. Some have a sort of 'law', while others simply need a source.

If we were to take my home world, for instance, you have different schools of magic: Adjuration, Conjuration, Divination, Enchantment, Evocation, Illusion, Necromancy and Transmutation. These each have different properties, different... power sources, let's say.

Some call upon your bond with a god or a demon. Some come straight from the magic coursing through your blood. Others still call upon the offering of various items. But some demand you bend the rules a bit, do a little naughty thing as mere mortals to delve into what normally should not belong to us.

Glad to see you've decided to give this some serious consideration, Edward. [ Believe it or not, that grin is genuinely pleased.

Also: "come to my attention" he says.

You're getting video because she hasn't the patience to type out all that she wants to say so DEAL WITH IT, ED. ]

I'm not certain about laws, I'm no scholar or Sharlayan, but I'll tell you what I can.

Each magic discipline has its own set of limitations and draw from different sources. In... [ Wait. She stops, frowns, pausing before muttering- ] Would it be in or on...? Gods damn it all. [ Alright, enough of that. ] The world I'm from is filled with aether. It's more or less the life force of every living thing on the planet, and our source of energy for magic. One has to be born with the ability to manipulate aether in order to use magic, though.

[ She'll stop there for now because NO DOUBT he has questions already. He's even mouthier than she is (and she finds it both amusing and amazing). ]

From what I understand just about anyone can study science. That's not always the case with magic. Not everyone can use it or learn how to. Some people just don't make the cut.

Even if you can, you probably can't use every kind of magic.

[ He's a bit late to this message because he's been considering what, exactly, counts as magic. Quirks aren't... magic, but they're not what used to be normal, either. ]

We don't have magic, but most people are born with abilities like that it now.

Somebody would probably confuse it for magic.

All things possess a quantifiable form and function. "Magic" is no exception to this. Once you arrive at the necessary conclusion to grasp these, it becomes possible to utilize factors that would seem impossible or incomprehensible without this understanding.

Well, I don’t really think we consider it magic back home, but people seem to be reacting to my bending as if it’s magic... so perhaps I ought to consider it as such. Basically, certain members of the population where I’m from are born with the ability to control one of the four elements: earth, fire, air, or water. They all have their own individual limitations based on the bender’s skill and some environmental factors... and then there’s the Avatar, who’s the one person who can use all of them.

There’s also the spiritual realm, which tends to play by its own rules.

Complicated question, kid. Seems to me it's different on every world, but where I come from magic isn't a thing just anyone can use. Fact is most of my people don't even believe in it anymore.

What we have are abilities that we call semblances. They aren't magic, they're just a more physical manipulation of your spiritual energy. Some families have hereditary semblances, but for most people it's a unique thing that sort of reflects something inherent about them or their personality. Case in point, my tough niece can store up the kinetic energy of the hits she takes and deal the damage back twofold, while my cute niece can move so fast she bursts into rose petals.

Magic users, on the other hand, don't need to rely on just their own energy. It's like they can tap into a force beyond themselves and draw on that to do all sorts of fancy tricks. They aren't really constrained to the physical world, at least not as we know it. Get it?

Where I'm from, magic is a gift from the Gods - creators of the world. That's really all the explanation I'm able to give you.

People nowadays aren't capable of magic. Instead, we use Dust - a source of energy with elemental properties. It's similar in presentation, but we can't exactly create wind from just our minds or something.

I would happily explain why magic is no longer used in Remnant, although it may take some time for a response as it's a rather long story.

Where I'm from what most would probably consider magic is actually just someone rewriting the world formula based on their will. Of course it's not something just anyone can do.

I would personally consider it closer to science myself, since the work that first brought the world formula theory to the forefront was done by an alchemist. But people call it whatever they want, really.

I think magic is less magic and study than science? Most things that science does would be called magic in my old home.

I see no reason that magic itself could not be the source of scientific study, should one be so inclined. However, to answer your question: the most common answer is that magic is, perhaps by its very nature, not something everyone can wield. One may certainly study the theories, but that alone is not truly enough for someone to be able to cast a spell, should they lack the capability to do so.

My power is not magic, and it is definitely not a result of science experimentation.

[Those last two words are spoken as if they leave a bad taste in her mouth.]

I was simply born with it.

Edited (changed my everything!) 2019-03-31 02:44 (UTC)

For me, it largely comes down to presentation or effect. I'd class my own abilities as breaking established rules of physics and other sciences, but finding how to induce the desired effect does involve some research that may as well be its own form of science.

Well, someone else kinda explained the magic schools that I'm familiar with already, so you got the lowdown on that already.

But uh, we got science too, I think. Some dumb nerd I know, his family invented elevators. He's all into the study and invention of robits and some fucked up necromancy ghost-pulling bullshit. Oh and planar systems, I guess.

So we got both - science and magic. Why do you wanna know? You interested in picking up some sparkle fingers or something?

Man, you’ve really opened a can of worms with this one.

Getting enough answers to your questions, or do you still have more?

[considering ventus lives with Vanitas he heard the tail end of that conversation and...]

I am really sorry about my... brother

Vanitas.

I can tell you what he says IS true though.

Edited 2019-04-01 04:53 (UTC)

I'm sure everyone has told you thus far that magic is differing world by world, and that is true. As someone who is heavily skilled in magic, as well as the rules governing other worlds, perhaps I can provide some insight into your question.

If there's anything anyone else hasn't already answered, you are free to ask me, and I'll do my best.

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