[That definitely gives him a better idea of what Fish's line of work is, but he does tilt his head a bit at the response, like he doesn't quite get it.]

But you're still doing make-up for a performance, even if it changes things a lot...I don't think it usually makes that much difference what it's called, does it?

[Ren has a bit of a habit of sticking a pin in that kind of confidence when he sees it, to see how well it stands.]