東郷 一二三 | Hifumi Togo (
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prismatica2019-04-16 01:23 am
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As I believe we should all be more capable of thinking clearly now, I'd like to pose a couple of questions that have been on my mind for a while.
First is the matter of language barriers - or rather, the complete lack of them. Quite aside from meeting an American who admitted to no knowledge of Japanese (and my English certainly isn't good enough to fill in the gaps), I've had perfectly comprehensible conversations with people who aren't from Earth at all. Is it more likely that something about this world is translating for us on an individual basis, or somehow taught us all a common language without us noticing? Either way, can the translation effect be chalked up to Chroma, or is something else at play?
My second question circles back to Chroma itself, building off its local importance as both currency and energy source. We've been told that the locals see Chroma as the solution to their clean-energy woes (if only breaking oil dependency were this simple...). Our hosts believe that higher rates of Chroma generation will permit faster development of their technological capabilities, possibly including a means to return us to our worlds of origin.
How, exactly, do they intend to sustain that technological capability if all of us return to our homes?
I'll grant that that's a rather large assumption; there's a very real chance that this world is preferable to where some of us came from. However, a substantial majority of us refusing to stay here, once the means is in place, could still decimate Chroma production to the point where little to nothing that we help them make can be powered. That could potentially impact the ability to return everyone who wants to leave. If nothing else, it's something those of us who intend to get hands-on with the local technology should keep in mind.
First is the matter of language barriers - or rather, the complete lack of them. Quite aside from meeting an American who admitted to no knowledge of Japanese (and my English certainly isn't good enough to fill in the gaps), I've had perfectly comprehensible conversations with people who aren't from Earth at all. Is it more likely that something about this world is translating for us on an individual basis, or somehow taught us all a common language without us noticing? Either way, can the translation effect be chalked up to Chroma, or is something else at play?
My second question circles back to Chroma itself, building off its local importance as both currency and energy source. We've been told that the locals see Chroma as the solution to their clean-energy woes (if only breaking oil dependency were this simple...). Our hosts believe that higher rates of Chroma generation will permit faster development of their technological capabilities, possibly including a means to return us to our worlds of origin.
How, exactly, do they intend to sustain that technological capability if all of us return to our homes?
I'll grant that that's a rather large assumption; there's a very real chance that this world is preferable to where some of us came from. However, a substantial majority of us refusing to stay here, once the means is in place, could still decimate Chroma production to the point where little to nothing that we help them make can be powered. That could potentially impact the ability to return everyone who wants to leave. If nothing else, it's something those of us who intend to get hands-on with the local technology should keep in mind.

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[Hey, if he's questioning her assumption of good faith on the part of the locals, she's going to question his assumption of bad faith.]
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[Oh he has more than enough pessimism to share with the whole class.]
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So pretty much you're looking at it being a while before we go home unless we just spontaneously leave the way we arrived. R&D cycles take a while.
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Given the prerequisite of physical contact, I do have to wonder to what extent they could artificially generate Chroma, or whether attempts to do so would simply produce the less effective version they already have. But I suppose that would be a component of the research, one way or another.
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If they can't artificially generate it then they can at least collect and store it. Not that that makes it any easier for them to let an inexhaustible sort - the Moonblessed - go for a limited supply either.
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when it comes down to it, we're going to have to fight our way out of this hellhole of a neon eyesore.
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I haven't seen anything so far to suggest a diplomatic solution is entirely off the table.
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that seems totally plausible
yep
toooootally
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so yeah im gonna have to agree with some other ppl here i doubt it’ll be easy as just letting us go
don’t q me man i know all about aliens
the language thingy is all their doing cuz how else can we moonlace with ppl without communication?? i mean ya i know a few sexy gestures butt it’s just easier to talk
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The lack of communication barrier does make things more efficient. On the other hand, unless anyone can report language difficulties before those examinations, I doubt it was a deliberate act on their part.
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uh
u talk smart
idk maybe they just wanted variety for their shenannies
u know
shenanigans
for science??? maybe they wanna see all sorts of different species fuck cuz i mean that's sth i've been all about since i was a kid
u think it was a coincidence then?? the whole language bee ess
cuz i mean i don't wanna sound like i know everything
(even if it's true)
butt like also
coincidence usually means cover up for conspiracy!!
trust me i know what im talking about here
i wouldn't get too cozy here just yet
even if it's like.. a vacay of some sorts in a way
like fuck
im so glad i don't have paperwork
i can sleep in
stay in my pjs all day long
its fucking baller man
[ She didn't ask for that rambling. But she got it. ]
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Do you think the technology here allows us to bypass all that? Then again, all this technology is beyond me so it affecting how we communicate doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to imagine for a simpleton like me.
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And if anyone tries to send me back to where I’m from, I’ll make sure they’ll regret it.
[Temple has no idea how he’ll do that but if the time comes, he supposes he’ll find a way. Or try to, at least.]
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[The only reason Hifumi's not necessarily planning on it herself is because Ren was able to tell her how the situation she left behind resolves. Even then, her mother's not here, and that's still a very strong selling point.]
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Look, you said it yourself. This actually isn't too bad of a place, random transformations aside. What if, when they said they plan to send us home, what they actually meant was they plan to set up permanent two-way portals to our worlds?
Sure, that'd probably be more difficult than just popping us back home, but it'd be worth it for them if we could travel back and forth between here and our home worlds whenever we want... And just maybe, bring other people with us. Who would probably be decent sources of Chroma themselves, even if they don't get "Moonblessed". That earns them a heck of a lot more than just keeping us trapped here does.
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Also, if they find a way to send those of us who want to go home, mayhap they can find a way to bring in volunteers. You know, find people who want to live here instead of snatching people at random.
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Someone else mentioned the possibility of establishing two-way portals, which would tie into finding volunteers instead of randomly grabbing people through... whatever mechanism is currently doing so.
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In any case... I have to admit, I understand all the suspicion people have about our prospects of going home and whether or not we’ll actually be allowed to, but at the same time I haven’t really been given the indication that the Prismals can’t be reasoned or negotiated with. Honestly, I’d rather be home, but I can’t deny the potential benefits that could come from trying to set up actual diplomatic relations between my world and this one if we can establish proper contact between the two.
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Meanwhile, this makes me yet another person who doesn't know what you mean by 'bending,' other than it's clearly a technical term of some sort from the way you used it.
I wouldn't say caution is unnecessary, it's true, but diplomacy isn't off the table yet, and will likely ease the path going forward. Pondering the long-term ramifications of the situation will make it more likely we reach a mutually beneficial end than one where one side or another feels at a complete disadvantage.
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... And sorry to make this sound like a parrot situation, but I agree with a lot of people here. I doubt they'll be rushing to send us home, if they're even trying to sent us home at all. Whether that was their plan all along, I don't know, but just be being here we'll have changed things and they might not be eager to change it back.
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[Why are so many people assuming this is a dystopian
jamjarisekai?] Perhaps, but no matter what, we're all going to have to put up with each other for quite some time before any meaningful progress is made. There's plenty of room for them to learn about us in ways those examinations couldn't have covered, and that also has the potential to change things.(no subject)
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