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[peerlesscucumber]

Question: If someone tells you to do whatever's necessary in order to ensure you don't crystalise from chroma deprivation, what does that mean to you?

[ help him prove his point that people's first assumption isn't "have sexual relations!" or help disprove his point... ]

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un: lian

[holycurse]

Isn't that a reminder to keep up physical contact with people? Hugs, held hands, other things maybe.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

My intention in saying as much would be that, so yes, it's what I would mean, but not necessarily what everyone hearing would understand. Thank you for your response on the matter.

Have you experienced many difficulties in either understanding another Moonblessed's intentions or in keeping you or your friends chroma levels in safe zones?

text, anon

[godcards]

It means exactly that: whatever is necessary. Bare minimum of contact still counts.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

That was my understanding, but it's been made apparent to me this isn't the case for everyone. Thank you for your response on the matter.

Have you experienced many difficulties in either understanding another Moonblessed's intentions or in keeping you or your friends' chroma levels in safe zones?

[necroyalty]

For the most part, I've been holding out my hand for anyone who needs it.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

Which is a kindness and largess I applaud you for. It's one I hope most of us would be capable of, in assisting each other. Voluntarily, of course.

[winepouring]

[ ... ]

It means exactly as you said: To do whatever is necessary. There are limits, of course, but I would think that a reminder like that means that you should attempt to moonlace even if doing so [ is awkward? ] doesn't come along naturally.

Did someone say this to you? You should ask that person directly what they meant. The meaning of advice like that can vary depending on who gave it to you.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

In this case, it's a statement I gave to another, who had taken it in specific ways I hadn't anticipated. My intention was of the sort you described, with respect to an individual's limits. Thank you for your response on this matter.

It's also true the meaning of advice changes on the giver, but I would further suggest it changes depending on the preconceptions of the receiver, as well... and only in discussing is it resolved or even highlighted.

text, un: bellabelle

[doreimi]

Well...be responsible, I guess! Make sure you're not overdoing it with your spending or anything, and spend time with people you trust every so often to make sure you build some back up again!

Mm, and I guess don't be afraid to step outside your comfort zone a little? It might be a little weird to hold hands with someone you've never met before, sure, but if it's just for Chroma, I don't think there has to be anything embarrassing about it, you know?

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

I agree, while it may be weird or strange or uncomfortable, it doesn't need to be something to feel ashamed or deeply embarrassed about.

As for the rest, that would be what I personally would indeed mean by issuing such a statement, but I've found that the reception changes from person to person. Thank you for giving me your insight into this.

text; anon

[fafa]

I'd only say that to someone that'd I'd really mean it for.

And 'whatever's necessary' would be what the person chooses, or needs, or can't do without. We can start with those.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

My stance on who to say such too is the same. As is what it encompasses, which is good to have corroborated by those other than myself.

I hadn't realised what individual interpretations might colour the statement to sound like until relatively recently.

un: strawberryshortcake

[lifehacker]

fuckin gives you the biggest boost
it's like a defib for someone going into crystal shock basically
just fingerblast em or whatever
not that hard

though fighting and other physical contact works

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

Yes, these are all accurate and potential ways to handle that situation. Not the ones I'd intended as a first thought, but valid.

[ in other words: he sees where strawberryshortcake is coming from, and specifically, who else could be coming from that point of view. ]

Generally speaking, with the Moonblessed you've interacted with, do you believe they'd think along similar lines? Logically speaking, it is indeed the largest source of single session moonlacing chroma generation.

un: otacon

[codecmoment]

any and all physical contact. whatever they're comfortable with.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

That was my intent when I made such a statement, and I thank you for your response. Understanding what different perspectives may lend to such a remark has been helpful.

Have you encountered many miscommunications on the subjects of moonlacing or chroma?

text | un: ladyofthewind

[sheisthewind]

Seek out physical contact. Ideally with someone you get along with, but if you are chroma starved, anyone willing.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

This would be my intention with such a statement, but I've come to understand that different perspectives can interpret it different ways. Thank you for your response.

Would you say you've encountered many instances of miscommunications where moonlacing is involved?

un: yinandyang

[sifukatara]

To me it means don't let yourself get so close that it becomes dangerous in the first place. Do little things through the day to make sure you don't get too low, like shake the hand of every new friend you make, or give hugs to the people in your life that are important to you.

It also tells me that that "someone" is thinking enough about my well being to make sure I don't get careless, which is a nice thought.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

Thank you for your response. This is much of what I would mean in making such a statement, but I've come to understand that different perspectives means the intention is understood in different ways.

Would you say you've encountered misunderstandings with other Moonblessed when it comes to your understandings of what each other expect with regards to moonlacing?

text;

[swungdown]

usually physical contact. holding hands, hugging, etc.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

That would be my intention when it comes to making such a statement. Thank you for your response, it's helping clarify the ways in which individuals understand those words and what they mean.

Have you encountered many issues of miscommunication when it comes to Moonblessed on the subject of moonlacing or chroma needs?

text; un: diablo

[thedarkbond]

"do whatever's necessary" makes it sound like you're dealing with someone too stubborn to moonlace at all...
so i'd say it means anything at all ┐(￣ヮ￣)┌
if you can't get someone to hold hands or hug then they're not going to do anything else, are they (｡・ω・｡)?

permanon THANKS REN

[peerlesscucumber]

It's a subject that many Moonblessed struggle with when they initially arrive, irrational as it may be.

Either way, thank you for your response. My intention making such a statement is along those lines, in "anything at all," within a person's levels of comfort. As you state, one cannot be forced to do what they will not incline themselves to do.

Since you bring it up, you've noticed a number of Moonblessed who abstain from moonlacing? Do they take part before hitting dangerous chroma deprivation levels, or have you noticed any trends on that end of things?

[better_goodbyes]

It sounds like they care about you, and want to make sure that you take care of yourself. That they want to take care of yourself and stay healthy.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

That would be my intention behind such a statement, but it's been brought to my attention that while the concern and caring may not be in question, the particulars of what is assumed to be involved with that taking care of yourself and staying healthy were.

Have you encountered many difficulties or misunderstandings with Moonblessed when it comes to moonlacing or an individual's wants or expectations around chroma generation?

voice;

[wildsorcery]

When I was first told, I thought they meant we had to do things... but then I was told different.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

If you don't mind explaining, why was that the case for you?

un: mercy

[cadeuces]

Besides their concern for my wellbeing?
I would take it as invitation for physical contact, especially in the case of an emergency.
And if it were an emergency, most likely an embrace.

I tend to offer the same to others without question, or if an embrace is something embarrassing or too intimate for them, something like a shoulder or neck rub where the contact is elongated but it's more practical, and still considered rather "intimate" by way of touch.

I suppose it depends on everyone's individual comfort levels and self-assuredness in offering their tactility to others, or their aversion of the same.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

These are the same assumptions I'd make, and what I would intend, so I'm happy hearing that it's a first assumption for a handful of those here. I'm inclined to offer these things out of necessity, as situations and circumstances allow.

With those you've encountered who are averse to tactile contact, what have you heard or observed them doing to address the need for contact (albeit not skin to skin contact) here?

Anon text

[timefordinner]

Just whatever works, right? Holding hands, hugging, anything you're comfortable with that can give you chroma.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

These are the things I would assume were meant, yes, and what I would mean in making such a statement. Thank you for your response. It's heartening to know that more than a handful of Moonblessed share a similar outlook as a first assumption.

Have you encountered any situations where another Moonblessed misunderstood any offer for moonlacing that you made as being more or less than what you meant it to be?

un: milesedgeworth

[bratworth]

Provide physical contact.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

Succinct! Very succinct! Would you put limitations or boundaries on what that physical contact provision might include?

un: almasy

[gotdreams]

Means whatever personal space issues you had before gotta be forgotten. For the greater good, help out so you're not the poor sucker left half dead trying to get help from someone else.

At least here we get to pick some boundaries.

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

Considering how often Moonblessed seem to find themselves as that "poor sucker" it's something I hope more people will understand and face and find their own ways.

You're correct. Each one of us chooses some of our boundaries—moonlacing doesn't occur in situations where one or both parties are unwilling. Surprised, yes, but unwilling, no.

voice to text function; un: Xinmo

[bailian]

It means engaging in things one wouldn't typically do with strangers, when the situation is dire and casual touch does nothing to help.

[ The pause he takes to arrange his thoughts is heavy. The words which follow find themselves colored by his own experiences, which revolve around the exact things this person mentions: crystallizing. And all the efforts which had been in vain to postpone his inevitable chroma death. ]

Ones that may go against matters of the heart.

[ Just like everyone else, his personal views and time here skew how he reads those words. The dire nature of them. The desperate encouragement to survive by any means, any act, without boundaries which curtail things he wants to reserve for someone who deserves it.

If he's dying, or someone else is, how does he compartmentalize the act of kissing or perhaps even more to spare a life? How does he separate that from times it's done willingly elsewhere, if he willingly does so in those moments too?

Whatever others may do is their own choice to make. But Binghe has never wavered in his principles. Despite all the proposals, all those trying to wed or bed him, he's never touched the lips or body of any but one person in all his life. If he has to die to hold true to his beliefs, then it's the price he'll pay. ]

I don't prescribe to this belief.

Death is temporary in this world. The consequences of my actions are not.

[ He's never felt fear over the prospect of dying, even when it'd come for him upon this new world. Had he felt the depths of regret, sensed profound loss for what may never be, and all the things that tie into a man he loses when his heart finally stops? Of course. But never cowardice; never the urge to tuck his tail between his legs and spit in the face of his own moral compass.

Nor does he dread the idea now, after sinking into that dark oblivion. But staring down actions that hurt long after they're over, like the things he's done to staunch Xinmo's control over his mind? Those are the things that frighten him. Because as long as he draws breath, Binghe must live with those deeds.

private; VIDEO CALL

[peerlesscucumber]

[ Luo Binghe, just after you post this comment and your Shizun reads it, he sets down his comm and hits video call. It may not seem related, since he's calling Binghe's device directly, not responding in post no matter that this is being shown in post, hi ]

Luo Binghe. This Shizun would like to know your present location.

un: kol

[gradual]

the worst thing ever: get a job. ( he's never had to work a day in his life and he's over a thousand years old. 'it's never too late to start' is a lie. )

[peerlesscucumber]

Ah, now that's a response I've yet to hear. Earning demichroma for spending?

text;

[accurately]

I've provided sports massages and head patting.

[ ...He did have sex but not for like two months and it took some convincing. But it definitely wasn't his first instinct. ]

permanon

[peerlesscucumber]

Both good ways of touching in acceptable manners to you and you partners, I assume. I'm glad to understand where it is you would first go in your mind upon hearing such a question, thank you.