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voice ; un: carcinoGeneticist ; love lessons
[ The day had long since begun but the room on the video feed was dark. The curtains off frame were drawn but filtered enough light through the fabric for the scene to be visible, though the room remained suitably dimmed for the nocturnal owner of the Level 2 apartment. A moderate sized whiteboard had been haphazardly, but securely, taped against a wall by its uppermost edge. Symbols had been drawn upon the canvas: a red heart, a red diamond; to their right was a black spade, and a black club. The heart and spade were beside one another with the diamond and club below them in a symmetrical arrangement. It was a rough, messy diagram, but it served its purpose. A few seconds of fumbling and screen shaking later seemed to settle the recording device against whatever it had propped itself upon. A small, grey hand slapped a blank section of the board with a misleading amount of force. ]
Can everybody stop their jerk-off small talk circles for a minute and actually pay attention to something important?
[ The owner of the demanding voice shuffled into frame. From the mussed up hair, dark circles beneath his eyes, and the sagging of his shoulders, it was apparent that this small alien was up far past his bedtime. Despite how his withered posture was borderline drowning in his dark sweater, the insistence in his voice was clear. He had something to say and he was going to make damn sure that people heard it. ]
I know you sorry sacks of shit go feral over all of this Moonlacing crap, but your lack of social awareness is fucking abysmal. For my sake, your sake, and the sake of any future trolls that find their unfortunate carcasses dragged into cuddlefuck hell, I'm going to take one for the team and attempt to educate you about Quadrants.
[ The clawed pointer finger of his right hand gestured to the top row of symbols: the red heart and the black spade. It tapped beside the heart first. ]
I know you filthy degenerates are going to want to jump right into the relationships that focus on burying your bulge. Red romance, Matespritship, is the closest equivalent we have to a human's stunted romantic relationships. It's a bond built on pity, affection, and mating fondness. That should be an easy springboard to stimulate your Godawful sponges by shoving something familiar under your noses. Unlike humans, we aren't so primitive as to restrict or discourage relationships based on genders. All of our sexual organs are structured the same way and are viable for producing reproductive slurry. I'm not going to shit on any troll who has a masculine or feminine preference in their pailing partners, but that's an aesthetic choice and not something imposed on them by society. Seriously, what the fuck are humans even doing?
[ Karkat raised his hand and then tapped beside the black spade symbol. ]
Now we're getting into shit that your spongecells are going to struggle to comprehend. Black romance, like red romance, is a sexually aligned quadrant. Take all of that positive energy I just mentioned and kick the everloving shit out of it. Kismesissitude is a quadrant that thrives on frustration, hatred, and mating fondness. They don't piss you off enough for you to want to kill them, but fuck do you ever just want to dig your teeth into their smug asses and show them their place. A strong pair of Kismesis will always push each other to do better and will probably rip the throat out of any troll who thinks they're hot shit enough to lay a malicious finger on their partner. The two points of a black romance that humans always neglect to realise is: both parties share the same feelings for one another, and mutual respect is key. Red romances and black romances are both equally as intense and trolls sure as hell can flip back and forth between them both before settling their shit and committing.
[ The troll screwed his eyes shut and soothed the bridge of his nose with his left hand. The subtle, yellow glow of his eyes peeked through his fingers until he lowered his hand. A beat and a breath later, and he gestured to the bottom row of symbols. A firm tap of two fingers indicated that the diamond would be the first choice of topic. ]
The last two Quadrants are platonic attractions. Troll romance extends beyond an excuse to get your graspers all over your partner. Moirallegiance is the pale quadrant, and is based upon positive emotions not unlike red romance. Your Moirail exists to keep you grounded, and vice versa - pull your fucking weight and pap them once in a while. They're somebody you trust enough to be vulnerable around, to be soothed by, to let all that shit off your shoulders that's making your torso pillar buckle. A Moirail is especially important for Highblooded trolls who can flip their shit and massacre a small subgrub because they rolled out of the wrong side of their cocoon. Again, mating is not a part of a pale romance. There can be exceptions, such as each lacking a red partner during drone season, or for the sake of helping their partner through a reeeally fucking awful heat cycle, but the nature of the relationship in itself is completely platonic. You shouldn't fuck your Moirail.
[ Onto the last one. God, how can this guy talk for so long? Though he steadily seems to be running out of steam he seems no less enthusiastic. The black club symbol is tapped. ]
Auspisticism, you guessed it, has its roots in negative emotions. Say you have a pair of trolls who are God fucking awful for one another and are vacillating from black romance into platonic, murderous intent every other wipe. They need an Auspistice. They're mediators and keep shit from going south, romantically or otherwise, so thank fuck for that. Trolls kill each other enough even with Auspistices managing unstable Kismesissitudes. A troll can Auspise multiple black, or potential black, pairings. As long as they're capable and don't neglect one for the other. That's how unfortunate bastards end up dead after a black fling gone globes-up.
[ Karkat straightened his posture and took a long, deep breath. He jabbed a finger towards his communication device. ]
Now there's no excuse for you snivelling shitstains to claim ignorance. I laid it all out on a metaphorical nutrient plateau in the most painfully simple manner that I could manage. A couple of minor details to prevent questions from cropping up: Lowblooded Quadmates are permitted to wear the colours of their Highblooded partners to prevent pissing anybody off with a wrongful culling, and traditionally you only have one pairing of each quadrant. Except Auspisticism, but I just fucking went over that, so whatever.
[ The troll shifted his stance and wearily soothed the back of his neck. ]
Ask questions. As long as you aren't making me repeat myself I probably wont berate you about them.
[ Probably. End video. ]
Can everybody stop their jerk-off small talk circles for a minute and actually pay attention to something important?
[ The owner of the demanding voice shuffled into frame. From the mussed up hair, dark circles beneath his eyes, and the sagging of his shoulders, it was apparent that this small alien was up far past his bedtime. Despite how his withered posture was borderline drowning in his dark sweater, the insistence in his voice was clear. He had something to say and he was going to make damn sure that people heard it. ]
I know you sorry sacks of shit go feral over all of this Moonlacing crap, but your lack of social awareness is fucking abysmal. For my sake, your sake, and the sake of any future trolls that find their unfortunate carcasses dragged into cuddlefuck hell, I'm going to take one for the team and attempt to educate you about Quadrants.
[ The clawed pointer finger of his right hand gestured to the top row of symbols: the red heart and the black spade. It tapped beside the heart first. ]
I know you filthy degenerates are going to want to jump right into the relationships that focus on burying your bulge. Red romance, Matespritship, is the closest equivalent we have to a human's stunted romantic relationships. It's a bond built on pity, affection, and mating fondness. That should be an easy springboard to stimulate your Godawful sponges by shoving something familiar under your noses. Unlike humans, we aren't so primitive as to restrict or discourage relationships based on genders. All of our sexual organs are structured the same way and are viable for producing reproductive slurry. I'm not going to shit on any troll who has a masculine or feminine preference in their pailing partners, but that's an aesthetic choice and not something imposed on them by society. Seriously, what the fuck are humans even doing?
[ Karkat raised his hand and then tapped beside the black spade symbol. ]
Now we're getting into shit that your spongecells are going to struggle to comprehend. Black romance, like red romance, is a sexually aligned quadrant. Take all of that positive energy I just mentioned and kick the everloving shit out of it. Kismesissitude is a quadrant that thrives on frustration, hatred, and mating fondness. They don't piss you off enough for you to want to kill them, but fuck do you ever just want to dig your teeth into their smug asses and show them their place. A strong pair of Kismesis will always push each other to do better and will probably rip the throat out of any troll who thinks they're hot shit enough to lay a malicious finger on their partner. The two points of a black romance that humans always neglect to realise is: both parties share the same feelings for one another, and mutual respect is key. Red romances and black romances are both equally as intense and trolls sure as hell can flip back and forth between them both before settling their shit and committing.
[ The troll screwed his eyes shut and soothed the bridge of his nose with his left hand. The subtle, yellow glow of his eyes peeked through his fingers until he lowered his hand. A beat and a breath later, and he gestured to the bottom row of symbols. A firm tap of two fingers indicated that the diamond would be the first choice of topic. ]
The last two Quadrants are platonic attractions. Troll romance extends beyond an excuse to get your graspers all over your partner. Moirallegiance is the pale quadrant, and is based upon positive emotions not unlike red romance. Your Moirail exists to keep you grounded, and vice versa - pull your fucking weight and pap them once in a while. They're somebody you trust enough to be vulnerable around, to be soothed by, to let all that shit off your shoulders that's making your torso pillar buckle. A Moirail is especially important for Highblooded trolls who can flip their shit and massacre a small subgrub because they rolled out of the wrong side of their cocoon. Again, mating is not a part of a pale romance. There can be exceptions, such as each lacking a red partner during drone season, or for the sake of helping their partner through a reeeally fucking awful heat cycle, but the nature of the relationship in itself is completely platonic. You shouldn't fuck your Moirail.
[ Onto the last one. God, how can this guy talk for so long? Though he steadily seems to be running out of steam he seems no less enthusiastic. The black club symbol is tapped. ]
Auspisticism, you guessed it, has its roots in negative emotions. Say you have a pair of trolls who are God fucking awful for one another and are vacillating from black romance into platonic, murderous intent every other wipe. They need an Auspistice. They're mediators and keep shit from going south, romantically or otherwise, so thank fuck for that. Trolls kill each other enough even with Auspistices managing unstable Kismesissitudes. A troll can Auspise multiple black, or potential black, pairings. As long as they're capable and don't neglect one for the other. That's how unfortunate bastards end up dead after a black fling gone globes-up.
[ Karkat straightened his posture and took a long, deep breath. He jabbed a finger towards his communication device. ]
Now there's no excuse for you snivelling shitstains to claim ignorance. I laid it all out on a metaphorical nutrient plateau in the most painfully simple manner that I could manage. A couple of minor details to prevent questions from cropping up: Lowblooded Quadmates are permitted to wear the colours of their Highblooded partners to prevent pissing anybody off with a wrongful culling, and traditionally you only have one pairing of each quadrant. Except Auspisticism, but I just fucking went over that, so whatever.
[ The troll shifted his stance and wearily soothed the back of his neck. ]
Ask questions. As long as you aren't making me repeat myself I probably wont berate you about them.
[ Probably. End video. ]
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I have a girlfriend, someone I'm dating more casually, and what's apparently called a kissmessis.
All of them know they're not my only partner, and all of them also have other partners of their own.
It works because none of us think our partners 'belong' to us, so we don't feel a need to make them choose who they want to be with.
And yes, there is some scheduling involved. But that's true in platonic relationships, too.
Would you want to wind up promising two friends you're going to do different things at different places, at the same time?
And you're right, I'm not actually sorry.
This needed to be said, for the sake of anyone else with polyamorous tendencies that feels ashamed of it.
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those are all troll shit and humans dont need quadrants to do our shit
unless youre dating a troll then youre not a kismesis of anything my dude if you wanna hate fuck your homies im not telling you to stop
i just got like one question for you though
is it like a stack of fedoras on your head? or is it just one that you switch up whenever you got the chance?
i mean if youve been studying the blade while i was having premarital sex then i just need to know how much danger im in and how many confirmed kills you have for having a moment with my bro you know basically shit all about
you know
for science is why im asking
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I've been trying to find a way to succinctly describe it for months.
If you want to take a playful jab at a friend in public, don't do it in a way that could shame actual people.
I don't care if polyamory isn't for you, I care that you're publicly talking about it in a way that makes it sound like sharing a partner is inherently wrong.
You don't know me, but you still called me a douche canoe.
I wouldn't really care if one of my friends called me that, because we do tease each other like that too, but it's very insulting coming from a stranger.
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go forth
punch him in the dick and kiss it better with my blessing
i think you got some issues that arent me cause you keep explaining human emotions and piling it onto troll quadrants
why you gotta have a word for it?
if yall are in hate then yall are in hate
do your thing
quadrants arent polyamory but okay
guess you know better than i do
someone smart told me the only people who feel guilt or the only people who feel shame are the ones that have shame or guilt for the topic at hand
i called karkat a douche canoe because you dont know about our history but again
go off i guess
anything else you wanna get out at me with shit you dont know about and wasnt to do with you or?
you good maybe?
im here to listen bro
hit me with it you need this
i feel how badly you need this
who hurt you? cmere man you can tell me
show me on the doll
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Because, for whatever reason, neither of the languages I know have an easy way to refer to someone you consider both a rival and a lover.
Your comment was about the sharing aspect of this, which applies regardless.
And you made a sweeping statement that sharing partners makes one a douche canoe, which makes it seem like you're insulting everyone who does that.
But yes, I will admit that I used to be ashamed of the idea of wanting multiple partners, or being willing to date someone who had another partner already.
Everything back home said that the only way to do that was to be a cheating sack of shit.
Obviously, I'm willing to openly talk about it now, but I don't want other people in that same situation to read broad strokes comments like that and think it means something's wrong with them.
To sum it up, pick on your friend all you like, but don't use general terms that apply to people who might not be involved unless the only people who can hear or see it are people who are in on the joke.
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you cant be for real
im convinced youre just karkat on an alt without capslock on
theres no one in this entire place who sees me ballbusting my friend by reading a conversation that isnt even theirs in a way we do with each other and then needs to scrub themselves red in the shower over it
cut it out karkat and face me like a man
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I wouldn't have cared if your comment had been more specific. But people idly browse internet threads all the time, and your comment hit a nerve because it came across as implying there's no way to date multiple people or to date someone who's dating someone else without being an asshole. That's something I struggled with a lot, and I do still see people here voicing that opinion.
So, if a random person browsing threads under a post might read something and feel like it applies to them, you're probably being a bit too general in your teasing insults.
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its for trolls and i kinda know what im talking about
do what you wanna do man im not your mom
i dont know whats worse
the idea youre still bitching about something you got no idea about all while telling me i can do what i need to do with my buddy and then bitching that i did
or
that youre not karkat trying desperately to troll someone finally under the idea youre still bitching about something you got no idea about all while telling me i can do what i need to do with my buddy and then bitching that i did
like you must have a fucking blood pressure most wish was a bank balance
you gotta chill out man youre gonna explode the vein in your forehead
He's not wrong about the blood pressure...
If what he's describing perfectly fits how I feel toward someone, maybe what I feel toward him is that thing.
Maybe you should pause to consider why you're so adamant that humans can't have relationships like that.
What I'm saying is, the teasing is fine, but if a comment needs context to not sound like it's a broad insult, don't make it in public.
Otherwise, people who overhear it, don't know the context, and fit the general terms used will feel insulted.
I have a friend of my own who likes to reference memes.
If I made a public comment to her claiming that doing it made her an unoriginal asshole, would you be able to tell the insult didn't apply to you too?
this poor darling man
im so adamant because im one of three literal rulers of the earth c troll kingdom
but go ahead tell me more guy i dont know who is going to give themselves a woke scold aneurysm
ah man good thing you told me teasing is fine
shit i was worried there a second
not as worried as i am about your actual health if you live your life this way but...
i would be able to tell yeah cause im not going looking for shit to be offended by
He's usually stressed 25/8, and that's without time travel.
So then, how would you describe the difference between a rival that one finds extremely obnoxious but also extremely attractive and fun to fight with, without actually wanting to do anything to them they won't recover from, and a kismessis?
Without bringing species into it.
I'm concerned about people genuinely shaming the idea of multiple partners.
Like I said, it's something I have seen people do.
And some people do care about public opinion.
I don't want people who are still insecure about the idea seeing people talking about it like that and thinking there's something wrong with them.
sweet god how has he not had a heart attack lol
no it means im telling you your attributing troll shit that doesnt belong to a human emotion mainly because its for example not for you to live by
neither of us are trolls and im betting youre not dating a troll so...? how is this something about trolls
good thats great
now lets try an exercise
try breathing in and letting that air out
you might literally think its breathe in and then breathe in again but no trust me on this one
you want out first and then in again
then rinse repeat until youre chilled the fuck out man
like im not even fucking with you anymore im just worried youre going to die and itll be on my hands because you fucking exploded veins somewhere in your brain
im not about that just chill dude
It's a wonder, especially since he's also a coffee addict.
How would you describe it, in a way that doesn't give the implication that it's not actually a happy and stable relationship?
Or leaves out the romantic connotations entirely.
Look, this is just a topic I'm sensitive about.
I've seen a lot of cheating assholes, and spent a long time thinking I was just a measure of self-control away from being the same as them.
Like I said, it struck a nerve, because there are people who really do think that.
And I know it's not their business as long as my partners are content, but people spread gossip about things that are none of their business all the time.
It's something you learn to be wary of when you're high profile with a fickle public.
id be dead ten times in a minute
i bet if you say something about another partner right after whoever it is is going to get that youre poly and move on
if they dont or they start being a little cry baby-back bitch i suggest a good ol fashioned nancy sinatra and walk the fuck away with both birds flying high
cool story in the way it isnt a cool story at all but i dont know what that has to do with me and chill time with my best friend
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If I told someone I fought my partner on the rooftops, they'd worry that the relationship was having problems.
If I told someone I fought my rival on the rooftops, they'd think it was impressive but wouldn't register that it was a date.
That's my problem, no human word I know of conveys both sides of it.
It has to do with me being twitchy about things that make it seem like someone is implying there's something wrong with having multiple partners.
And to do with flipping them off and saying to hell with their opinion being easier said than done.
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i shouldve bought your thesis to study for this test from
i didnt realize there couldnt be multiple answers other than yours
no its really easy
i can show you how
you make a fist like youre gonna punch someone
but it comes with a twist
you lift up both your middle fingers while simultaneously walking the direction theyre not in
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Have you considered maybe it's something that's not mainstream enough in any human culture for there to be a word for it, so we need to use theirs?
That's how loanwords happen all the time.
I know how to flip someone off.
The part that's difficult is not caring if it leads to them shit talking me behind my back.
It's a work in progress.
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okay sure appropriate troll culture
youre squawking like i care what you actually do im just telling you what i know
who cares if they do
if theyre already being a dickhole to your face of course theyre talking behind your back
fuck em
re: who cares?
you let them win when you give a shit bro lol
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So it's this, or make up an entirely new word.
Unless you can come up with an actual way it's different that isn't based on the assumption that romance based on antagonistic feelings isn't something humans do.
You...have a point about them winning, though.
The people who spread the kind of sensationalist garbage I worry about are people like that Skeeter woman, who are actively looking to get under people's skin.
And a surprising number of people actually realized she was full of shit.
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i dont know what you want from me and i cant help all the shit youve gone through
do what you want cause youre going to and im not the one to tell you you cant whichs been my point
mainly cause i got no energy to bother to tell you when youre gonna run around in circles
do whatever man
yeah again i have no clue who that is and dont really care who they are
they sound like a useless waste of air if theyre gonna be like that
if someones a dumb bitch in my general direction theyll get told theyre being a dumb bitch in my general direction so
yeah
thats my point
just let people make asses of themselves because the asses usually do
lemme recap for you
both birds
walk away
in out breathing in that order unless you just breathed in then its out in
i dont know what else you want from me
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Useless waste of air sounds about right.
She's a tabloid journalist that showed up here, and that should tell you all you need to know.
But, all that really bothered me here was the implication that you were conflating polyamory or related arrangements with using someone.
It's obvious by now that you weren't actually serious about that, so I am sorry about the tone I took.
But I still think it needed to be pointed out that it's not the case, with the chances that it might reinforce shitty beliefs from cultures that shame anything but monogamy.
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poor guy
see how easy it is? finding shit to be offended about?
pretty easy man
i dont care he wouldnt care about you knowing his name either
im just making a point
ah yeah i still dont care either way about her
if shes being a bitch just tell her shes being a bitch and she can quote you on it
journalists love quotes
no i was bsing with my best friend about shit you know nothing about like i said man
it really doesnt need to be pointed out at all dude like i dont care how many fourty person sword fights a guy gets into or who does what with how many people because it isnt my bag either
[[Mainly because there's someone trying to force the situation on him if he likes it or not. But it's besides the point.]]
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But that's back on the subject of things the languages we're familiar with just aren't adapted to handle.
She's an idiot, and it was nice to see people call her one instead of buying her bullshit.
My point is that other people who might be more nervous about admitting to wanting to date multiple people would also know shit about what you were talking about.
Also, it's hard to tell when someone's bullshitting over text.
Would you care if they saw that comment, then felt more afraid what they wanted was wrong?
Especially since it IS easy to be an asshole about it, and it's the assholes that get talked about.
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too much energy to care and i got better things to do
go on and say whatever you want wherever you want about troll culture words
good
thats how shit happens man just sit back and let it
that sounds like a them problem not a rando on the network problem and if theyre that unsure its still a them not a me
just like if i had an insecurity its a me not a someone else
would i care? yeah
would that be my fault? nope they already felt that way before i ever came along and are using whatever they would have been looking for as an excuse
loaded question and i dont like hypotheticals that arent irony or comedy
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It'd probably be more effective than addressing individual bits of possible misinformation.
A less rambling one, though.
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