text; un: alucard

[reposing]

This may be too broad of a question to ask, but I've been curious at any rate. I'd like to ask about what your interpretation of "magic" is, and the basic rules of it should it have any or even limitations.

From my understanding based on my own world, there are some limitations, but magic is capable of much in talented hands.

I suppose that also begs the question of what exactly chroma can be used for, as it is in its essence not quite the typical energy source, yet capable of mild magic on its own.

Comments

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[miraclewhip]

i mean you know that i know fuck all about using the stuff but i could give your the belmont definition
how we define whats magic and whats other bullshit

or you know

what i remember of it

[reposing]

Are you ever going to change that username?

But
yes
That would be nice.
In your words, how would you describe it?

un: tigerpoet

[tigerpoet]

In my world, we don't have magic, but we do have alchemy, which is often nearly indistinguishable from magic. I guess I would define magic as creating something from nothing?

[reposing]

Alchemy is a manner of science where I'm from, but an unusual one. Though I don't think anything can be created from nothing.

[miraclewhip]

when you do maybe i dont know

so when we call something magic it has to be something that you can learn. you can be born being better at it than other people and you have assholes like me wholl never be able to learn it but it has to be something that theoretically someone could learn to do

so

using you as an example
sword bullshit is magic and dog bullshit is not magic

[tigerpoet]

When I think of magic, I think of, say, a wizard shooting a fireball, or an illusion being created. Things that don't have the material components you would normally use to make fire or an image.

Alchemy works with materials, but these materials are usually 'notions'. The essences of things. I'm the notion of a dead author, transmigrated into a physical body.

un: f, voice 4ever

[doggish]

It is a force that can be interacted with and wielded in my world, but only by those individuals born with the ability. It is a danger, and immensely powerful. What limits it has are dependent on a number of factors: the mage's own power, and what, if any, leashes he might have.

[This is definitely not a biased explanation at all.]

The chroma here is . . . similar, in some senses, and foreign in others. But I would still classify it as magic.

[reposing]

Why would I change mine? Unless you're suggesting your name should be "Prick." I wouldn't argue.

You know, you could technically learn if you wanted, but
no you're right you couldn't. What am I saying?
In any case, I don't think I could do what Sypha does for certain, but even then it counts on a source of some kind.
The sword is an entire matter aside.

[reposing]

And yet, all of those would have a source to call upon, at least from what I've been educated on.

A notion of a dead author. How does that work?

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[foxable]

oh boy oh boy oh boy i could literally write a treatise on this subject here we go

magic as far as it works in my world anyway is the use of the inherent energy of the universe in order to achieve an effect

i know that sounds really really vague but that's because i've found in my studies that magic can do essentially anything that you can think of, with very few exceptions

it can't raise the dead, for example, but it can animate a corpse for a little while, as if you were using them like a puppet, but you can't bring people back to life

you can make objects into living creatures but not into humans, idk why that doesn't work and honestly maybe you could but it's a branch of study that is pretty super illegal anyway

we had magic that razed entire cities during world war two, but most of knowledge for those was deliberately destroyed as per peace treaties

otherwise, um, most things are possible, with the right components

most people think it has something to do with wealth, because often the best components are the most expensive ones, but i actually think it has to do with a mixture of labour and time

gemstones are really good because they took millions of years to create, same with crude oil, etc

thinks like spell paper are really good because the creation process is super labour intense

living things like plants and animals and blood are good because of the time and energy invested into their beings but i have a thing against using animals or blood and honestly so should everyone it's pretty morally questionable


but yeah, given enough research, time and the right components i can probably do just about anything

not to blow smoke up my own ass :)


as for chroma as far as i can tell it's probably this universe's version of inherent energy

it seems to tap me for all my spells and yet i still need the components to cast them, so i must have brought some of my own magic with me, hard to tell

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[miraclewhip]

you could, hypothetically. given enough time and resources anyone could.

is the sword not magic
ive seen people use magic to move things around like that.

not to be dogs though. being dogs is usually an intrinsic thing and

[tigerpoet]

I have his memories, but I'm also influenced by what people thought of me and my work, so I'm not an exact match to the living man. It's something I try not to dwell on - existential crises are terrible for my productivity, I've found.

[miraclewhip]

Fuck it if I'm using words like fucking intrinsic I'm not fooling anyone and it's easier to talk about shit like this if I use my words properly.

So you have magic, which is anything that a person can learn. And that can be divided into the shit Sypha does, which is a pain because the only component you have to use for it is yourself. And then there's shit like what forgemasters do, people who use magic themseves but channel it through tools to make it easier. There's the shit I remember my sisters doing, where instead of a physical tool you used this shit that's like mathematical equations but for the way things are. There's magical tools in general, where the magic part was done ahead of time in making the tool and the effect comes later on when it's used.

It covers shit you wouldn't expect it to, too. Church stuff, mostly. Blessing something is a thing a person can learn how to do, not something they're born with. So that's magic, even if the church'd rip all your best organs out for saying so.

And if something's not magic then it's something else.

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[menphina]

In our world, anyone looking to approach magic would have it described thus:

"The path of magic beckons to those with a restless desire to study and command sorcery in all its forms. Its adherents use artifacts and relics to call upon and channel forces within themselves and the aether around them, from which they then weave spells of both destruction and restoration."

"Aether" of course, refers to the source of magic and life around us. It's found in heavier concentration in some areas. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that there are yet unexplored sources of magic. Such as the dragons on our world using their own kind of magic!

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[torsion]

"Magic" seems to be something I can define when I see it. It's not something that exists where I come from outside of fiction, so it's pretty broad for me.

Guess fantastical and not the norm might be how I'd interpret it, but even that is pretty open.

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[reposing]

The sword is absolutely magic, but it's more complicated than just pointing at it and saying "that's magic". It involves making a contract with a familiar. I made the sword, and then I summoned a familiar to bond with who agreed to be bound to it and in turn protect me.

In any case

[reposing]

You know more about this than I gave you credit for.

[reposing]

Do you feel like you are your own person?

[tigerpoet]

I suppose I don't.

[reposing]

Anything is dangerous in the wrong hands. I suppose that's part of the complication for those with less than good intentions.

Would you suppose that chroma could be utilized in a similar fashion?

[reposing]

I see.
How would you then identify yourself? Regardless of outside influences. What sort of person are you?

[reposing]

That's very fascinating. So you would indeed consider yourself something of an expert on the matter?

[tigerpoet]

I'm a teacher. That's what I'm most proud of, at least. Teaching and helping people.

[reposing]

Different magic for different species isn't terribly surprising.

What sort of limitations do you think there is to the magic you know?

[foxable]

if you're talking expert as in recognized by academia or formal training not at all

if you're talking expert as one of the top living mages? yeah

at least back home

no idea how i rank here yet