text; un: alucard

[reposing]

This may be too broad of a question to ask, but I've been curious at any rate. I'd like to ask about what your interpretation of "magic" is, and the basic rules of it should it have any or even limitations.

From my understanding based on my own world, there are some limitations, but magic is capable of much in talented hands.

I suppose that also begs the question of what exactly chroma can be used for, as it is in its essence not quite the typical energy source, yet capable of mild magic on its own.

Comments

un: 8==D

[miraclewhip]

i mean you know that i know fuck all about using the stuff but i could give your the belmont definition
how we define whats magic and whats other bullshit

or you know

what i remember of it

[reposing]

Are you ever going to change that username?

But
yes
That would be nice.
In your words, how would you describe it?

[miraclewhip]

when you do maybe i dont know

so when we call something magic it has to be something that you can learn. you can be born being better at it than other people and you have assholes like me wholl never be able to learn it but it has to be something that theoretically someone could learn to do

so

using you as an example
sword bullshit is magic and dog bullshit is not magic

un: tigerpoet

[tigerpoet]

In my world, we don't have magic, but we do have alchemy, which is often nearly indistinguishable from magic. I guess I would define magic as creating something from nothing?

[reposing]

Alchemy is a manner of science where I'm from, but an unusual one. Though I don't think anything can be created from nothing.

[tigerpoet]

When I think of magic, I think of, say, a wizard shooting a fireball, or an illusion being created. Things that don't have the material components you would normally use to make fire or an image.

Alchemy works with materials, but these materials are usually 'notions'. The essences of things. I'm the notion of a dead author, transmigrated into a physical body.

un: f, voice 4ever

[doggish]

It is a force that can be interacted with and wielded in my world, but only by those individuals born with the ability. It is a danger, and immensely powerful. What limits it has are dependent on a number of factors: the mage's own power, and what, if any, leashes he might have.

[This is definitely not a biased explanation at all.]

The chroma here is . . . similar, in some senses, and foreign in others. But I would still classify it as magic.

[reposing]

Anything is dangerous in the wrong hands. I suppose that's part of the complication for those with less than good intentions.

Would you suppose that chroma could be utilized in a similar fashion?

un: fox🦊

[foxable]

oh boy oh boy oh boy i could literally write a treatise on this subject here we go

magic as far as it works in my world anyway is the use of the inherent energy of the universe in order to achieve an effect

i know that sounds really really vague but that's because i've found in my studies that magic can do essentially anything that you can think of, with very few exceptions

it can't raise the dead, for example, but it can animate a corpse for a little while, as if you were using them like a puppet, but you can't bring people back to life

you can make objects into living creatures but not into humans, idk why that doesn't work and honestly maybe you could but it's a branch of study that is pretty super illegal anyway

we had magic that razed entire cities during world war two, but most of knowledge for those was deliberately destroyed as per peace treaties

otherwise, um, most things are possible, with the right components

most people think it has something to do with wealth, because often the best components are the most expensive ones, but i actually think it has to do with a mixture of labour and time

gemstones are really good because they took millions of years to create, same with crude oil, etc

thinks like spell paper are really good because the creation process is super labour intense

living things like plants and animals and blood are good because of the time and energy invested into their beings but i have a thing against using animals or blood and honestly so should everyone it's pretty morally questionable


but yeah, given enough research, time and the right components i can probably do just about anything

not to blow smoke up my own ass :)


as for chroma as far as i can tell it's probably this universe's version of inherent energy

it seems to tap me for all my spells and yet i still need the components to cast them, so i must have brought some of my own magic with me, hard to tell

[reposing]

That's very fascinating. So you would indeed consider yourself something of an expert on the matter?

[foxable]

if you're talking expert as in recognized by academia or formal training not at all

if you're talking expert as one of the top living mages? yeah

at least back home

no idea how i rank here yet

« text » un: matriarch

[menphina]

In our world, anyone looking to approach magic would have it described thus:

"The path of magic beckons to those with a restless desire to study and command sorcery in all its forms. Its adherents use artifacts and relics to call upon and channel forces within themselves and the aether around them, from which they then weave spells of both destruction and restoration."

"Aether" of course, refers to the source of magic and life around us. It's found in heavier concentration in some areas. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that there are yet unexplored sources of magic. Such as the dragons on our world using their own kind of magic!

[reposing]

Different magic for different species isn't terribly surprising.

What sort of limitations do you think there is to the magic you know?

text | j.valentine

[torsion]

"Magic" seems to be something I can define when I see it. It's not something that exists where I come from outside of fiction, so it's pretty broad for me.

Guess fantastical and not the norm might be how I'd interpret it, but even that is pretty open.

[reposing]

That's a fair way to perceive it. It's still strange to me to think that it simply doesn't exist in some worlds, but as there are infinite possibilities then I can only assume it is possible to there be a lack of it.

Has it been strange adjusting to it here?

text, un: rosaceae

[roseblooms]

There are a few varieties of phenomena that I suppose could be considered "magic" that exist in my world. There are objects and artifacts imbued with power that can be utilized by anyone, regardless of skill or prowess. A magic sword, for example, or talisman cards that can ward against particular types of creatures.

Then there are innate abilities, unique to their respective users. These are more affinities and techniques — skills that can be strengthened and refined, but which an individual must naturally possess on their own. Sometimes these can be channeled through objects, themselves, but the object never takes on any magical properties of its own; it acts merely as a conduit.

We don't call it magic, but it could be thought of as such. It's simply power, expressed through various different means.

[reposing]

Arguably there seems to be no real limitations where you're from, it is merely based on what precious artifact you can find?

un: T.leaf

[bolderfell]

Probably get a better answer from a scholar, but as far as I can tell... Magic's stuff you can do without some kind of physical source. Making fire or ice, or healing. Things like that.

[reposing]

I would agree on the assessment.
Are you familiar with it then?

un: undyingsoul

[necroyalty]

Oh joy, this is going to be a mouthful if I ever gave one, but perhaps I could try to shorten this a bit.

Magic, in my world, is the process by which one can, if only for a little while, play with the baseline laws of the fabric of reality and defy them for their own ends.

There's two ways to go about it, which people in my world - at least those who study magic - generally recognize, and it's the difference between arcane and divine magic.

A practitioner of divine magic, first of all, exercises their art by communing with a higher power, whether that be the primal forces of nature or faith in a god.

I'm more of an arcane practitioner, though. and we do things by playing with the strings that weave the metaphorical fabric of reality and the source of magic itself.

Takes a fair bit of trial and error to do it the way I and a lot of mages do. Research, experimentation, years of poring over notes and reading old tomes until your eyes bleed. But some people are able to exert their own will over magic more intuitively, whether it's by particularly unusual circumstances of birth or being granted the capability to do so by fell powers.

That last one isn't quite the same thing as divine magic. Divine magic is when you need to cut grass, commune with whatever being it is you commune with, and a spectral knife appears out of nowhere for a second.

Pact magic is more like some magical patron of sorts just hands you a knife and tells you to go wild, but you end up cutting yourself a little each time you use it in the process.

un: anisotropic

[fractaljesus]

Strictly defined, the word "magic" is used to describe phenomena that is impossible within the world's conditional variables, and therefor cannot truly exist. If something possesses structures that may be known and understood, then it is not truly magic, and to call it such is simply a misunderstanding of its principles.

There is a quote; "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

text (sn: healerprincess)

[im_gonna_heal_u]

If I remember correctly, spells in my world have the formal definition of being 'the circuits which allow the caster to shape ‘the power of words’ in a form they most desire.' And spells are essentially how one uses magic. In my home world, spirits execute the magic, and you pay mana to compensate.

But here it's weird, since Chroma takes that job, and it's more like directly willing it yourself instead of calling spirits. It's very taxing.

[axemeaquestion]

magic doesn’t exist where i’m from so i’m not sure if i weigh in completely here....

but in my world, “magic” was used to explain things people didn’t understand. science would EVENTUALLY figure it out but. depending on the unexplainable thing, there was usually a lot of unfounded fear and other bullshit.

it’s a lot nicer in books and movies at least.

as for here uhhhhh. magic is apparently real, been real for others for a long time, and gives me weird superpowers. so i mean. i‘m sort of okay with that.

text; un: ritaskeeter

[quickquotes]

'Magic' is anything that Muggles are incapable of producing or experiencing, of course.

( But because she's been called out on it before, she quickly adds: )

I'm aware it is different in other worlds.

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[topgun_textiles]

Magic didn't exist. Until it did.

I have to be in a TV to make it happen usually, but I can just do it here whenever and my chroma's not low.