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Adrian "Alucard" Ţepeş ([personal profile] reposing) wrote in [community profile] prismatica2020-06-18 12:50 pm

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This may be too broad of a question to ask, but I've been curious at any rate. I'd like to ask about what your interpretation of "magic" is, and the basic rules of it should it have any or even limitations.

From my understanding based on my own world, there are some limitations, but magic is capable of much in talented hands.

I suppose that also begs the question of what exactly chroma can be used for, as it is in its essence not quite the typical energy source, yet capable of mild magic on its own.
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[personal profile] miraclewhip 2020-06-18 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
i mean you know that i know fuck all about using the stuff but i could give your the belmont definition
how we define whats magic and whats other bullshit

or you know

what i remember of it
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[personal profile] tigerpoet 2020-06-18 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
In my world, we don't have magic, but we do have alchemy, which is often nearly indistinguishable from magic. I guess I would define magic as creating something from nothing?
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[personal profile] doggish 2020-06-18 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It is a force that can be interacted with and wielded in my world, but only by those individuals born with the ability. It is a danger, and immensely powerful. What limits it has are dependent on a number of factors: the mage's own power, and what, if any, leashes he might have.

[This is definitely not a biased explanation at all.]

The chroma here is . . . similar, in some senses, and foreign in others. But I would still classify it as magic.
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[personal profile] foxable 2020-06-18 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
oh boy oh boy oh boy i could literally write a treatise on this subject here we go

magic as far as it works in my world anyway is the use of the inherent energy of the universe in order to achieve an effect

i know that sounds really really vague but that's because i've found in my studies that magic can do essentially anything that you can think of, with very few exceptions

it can't raise the dead, for example, but it can animate a corpse for a little while, as if you were using them like a puppet, but you can't bring people back to life

you can make objects into living creatures but not into humans, idk why that doesn't work and honestly maybe you could but it's a branch of study that is pretty super illegal anyway

we had magic that razed entire cities during world war two, but most of knowledge for those was deliberately destroyed as per peace treaties

otherwise, um, most things are possible, with the right components

most people think it has something to do with wealth, because often the best components are the most expensive ones, but i actually think it has to do with a mixture of labour and time

gemstones are really good because they took millions of years to create, same with crude oil, etc

thinks like spell paper are really good because the creation process is super labour intense

living things like plants and animals and blood are good because of the time and energy invested into their beings but i have a thing against using animals or blood and honestly so should everyone it's pretty morally questionable


but yeah, given enough research, time and the right components i can probably do just about anything

not to blow smoke up my own ass :)


as for chroma as far as i can tell it's probably this universe's version of inherent energy

it seems to tap me for all my spells and yet i still need the components to cast them, so i must have brought some of my own magic with me, hard to tell
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[personal profile] menphina 2020-06-18 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
In our world, anyone looking to approach magic would have it described thus:

"The path of magic beckons to those with a restless desire to study and command sorcery in all its forms. Its adherents use artifacts and relics to call upon and channel forces within themselves and the aether around them, from which they then weave spells of both destruction and restoration."

"Aether" of course, refers to the source of magic and life around us. It's found in heavier concentration in some areas. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that there are yet unexplored sources of magic. Such as the dragons on our world using their own kind of magic!
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[personal profile] torsion 2020-06-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"Magic" seems to be something I can define when I see it. It's not something that exists where I come from outside of fiction, so it's pretty broad for me.

Guess fantastical and not the norm might be how I'd interpret it, but even that is pretty open.
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[personal profile] roseblooms 2020-06-19 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
There are a few varieties of phenomena that I suppose could be considered "magic" that exist in my world. There are objects and artifacts imbued with power that can be utilized by anyone, regardless of skill or prowess. A magic sword, for example, or talisman cards that can ward against particular types of creatures.

Then there are innate abilities, unique to their respective users. These are more affinities and techniques — skills that can be strengthened and refined, but which an individual must naturally possess on their own. Sometimes these can be channeled through objects, themselves, but the object never takes on any magical properties of its own; it acts merely as a conduit.

We don't call it magic, but it could be thought of as such. It's simply power, expressed through various different means.
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[personal profile] bolderfell 2020-06-19 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Probably get a better answer from a scholar, but as far as I can tell... Magic's stuff you can do without some kind of physical source. Making fire or ice, or healing. Things like that.
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[personal profile] necroyalty 2020-06-19 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh joy, this is going to be a mouthful if I ever gave one, but perhaps I could try to shorten this a bit.

Magic, in my world, is the process by which one can, if only for a little while, play with the baseline laws of the fabric of reality and defy them for their own ends.

There's two ways to go about it, which people in my world - at least those who study magic - generally recognize, and it's the difference between arcane and divine magic.

A practitioner of divine magic, first of all, exercises their art by communing with a higher power, whether that be the primal forces of nature or faith in a god.

I'm more of an arcane practitioner, though. and we do things by playing with the strings that weave the metaphorical fabric of reality and the source of magic itself.

Takes a fair bit of trial and error to do it the way I and a lot of mages do. Research, experimentation, years of poring over notes and reading old tomes until your eyes bleed. But some people are able to exert their own will over magic more intuitively, whether it's by particularly unusual circumstances of birth or being granted the capability to do so by fell powers.

That last one isn't quite the same thing as divine magic. Divine magic is when you need to cut grass, commune with whatever being it is you commune with, and a spectral knife appears out of nowhere for a second.

Pact magic is more like some magical patron of sorts just hands you a knife and tells you to go wild, but you end up cutting yourself a little each time you use it in the process.
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[personal profile] fractaljesus 2020-06-19 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Strictly defined, the word "magic" is used to describe phenomena that is impossible within the world's conditional variables, and therefor cannot truly exist. If something possesses structures that may be known and understood, then it is not truly magic, and to call it such is simply a misunderstanding of its principles.

There is a quote; "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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[personal profile] im_gonna_heal_u 2020-06-19 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
If I remember correctly, spells in my world have the formal definition of being 'the circuits which allow the caster to shape ‘the power of words’ in a form they most desire.' And spells are essentially how one uses magic. In my home world, spirits execute the magic, and you pay mana to compensate.

But here it's weird, since Chroma takes that job, and it's more like directly willing it yourself instead of calling spirits. It's very taxing.
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[personal profile] axemeaquestion 2020-06-19 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
magic doesn’t exist where i’m from so i’m not sure if i weigh in completely here....

but in my world, “magic” was used to explain things people didn’t understand. science would EVENTUALLY figure it out but. depending on the unexplainable thing, there was usually a lot of unfounded fear and other bullshit.

it’s a lot nicer in books and movies at least.

as for here uhhhhh. magic is apparently real, been real for others for a long time, and gives me weird superpowers. so i mean. i‘m sort of okay with that.
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[personal profile] quickquotes 2020-06-20 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
'Magic' is anything that Muggles are incapable of producing or experiencing, of course.

( But because she's been called out on it before, she quickly adds: )

I'm aware it is different in other worlds.
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[personal profile] topgun_textiles 2020-06-21 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Magic didn't exist. Until it did.

I have to be in a TV to make it happen usually, but I can just do it here whenever and my chroma's not low.