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Goro Akechi ([personal profile] foolishjustice) wrote in [community profile] prismatica2019-08-21 12:30 am

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I have a question, that...you'll probably understand my reasons for posting anonymously once you finish reading.

The local culture is very open and laid back about sexual interest. It's different as hell from my own home, where men who show sexual attraction are viewed as disgusting perverts and assumed to be dangerous, while people don't even fucking think about women having an interest in sex beyond wanting to have children. Some of the posts I've seen here would get everyone involved labeled sexual deviants for the shit they talk about in the open.

My question is, how do people adapt to it? I'm here doing my damn best to keep my mind out of the gutter because I've been taught thinking about anyone you don't want to date like that is disrespectful as hell and fucking creepy, but then I turn around and see people openly asking for hookups or rating each other's asses, and instead of people calling that shit skeevy, they either go along with it or treat it like a funny joke.

I know it's not prudishness, believe-you-fucking-me, my life would be easier if I was just naturally shy or reserved or whatever. It's an extreme form of culture shock, and I wish I didn't end up feeling like a dick constantly over the kinds of mental images I get from both the way people act in public around here and some of the things the prismals hand out as fucking party favors.
pidgeypidge: (she said I'm too young to drink)

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[personal profile] pidgeypidge 2019-08-26 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Just a bit, maybe.

There are probably people around that offer that kind of service, too.

So. People who ask, eh~? 🤔
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[personal profile] pidgeypidge 2019-08-26 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I mean.

It's not not a request.
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-26 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Women aren't really considered to have a desire for sex where I'm from, too. Like, it's just not even thought about, at best.

Or you're a tainted slut or worse.

I don't really remember when I started hating that, but it's been awhile. It would be kind of refreshing to be somewhere where I'm allowed to actually express that and like, be allowed to have a sexuality, but, I dunno, it's complicated, right?

I had to face down my own desire to be a sexual person in a big way, and accept that about myself, but in order to live the way I wanna live, I still had to really hide it, you know?

I don't really know what the point in saying all this is, except that I understand where you're coming from, I think, but instead of feeling like a dick I feel like... hmm. You know all the bad things they say about girls who "like sex" I'm sure. I feel like I'm betraying myself, too, like I'm letting myself be a piece of meat. But I do want that kind of attention, and I know that about myself. It's not new. It's just suddenly... relevant.

I hope both of us can learn how to be honest about that part of ourselves and be okay with it.

I didn't expect to say so much in response to this. Guess I needed to get it out.
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-26 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
[Wow that's a lot of validation being aggressively thrown her way at once. Forgive Rise while she blinks at the screen.]

I can only imagine the kinds of things your mother went through...

That's... that's actually really nice to hear, especially from a guy. So you do totally get the difference, between being attracted to someone and objectifying someone. That's really what the difference between being a creep and not a creep is, so I think you're definitely too hard on yourself.

Makes me feel better, I think. I really like attention. I will seek it out! And I've learned the ways that are "acceptable" for me to do that, and sometimes I push the boundaries, but mostly I play it safe, right? It's still hard, though, because I want to do it more.

I'd want to flaunt to multiple people in my lifetime, for a starters, without worrying about all this crap. Heh, or multiple people in a week, but that's just slutty and greedy of me, right?

I've.. definitely had more than one crush at a time, though. I didn't even know girls could do that, before it happened. That just made everything more complicated, and made me feel like a jerk.

You lost me there though, friend. 'Poly' isn't that a greek prefix? What's that got to do with anything?
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-26 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
There's a word for that?

That's a thing?

Like, people actually do that, and it doesn't just end with a couple who got totally attached and the leftovers? Like... people don't get jealous and just end up fighting?

I was all on board with you, everything made so much sense, but this one's harder to believe.

Just personally speaking, I don't know if I could... share? Like that. Knowing that at that moment, someone I loved was with someone else? I feel like I'd combust with rage.


[But at the same time... she's imagining a world where she could have flirted with everyone she had wanted to, and get attention in return, and that was okay and it just sounds like an impossible fairy tale. In a good way.]
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-26 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Everything in that response is just... not what I expected at all.

I'm trying to imagine being anyone in that sort of situation and it going like that and... I don't know how to feel about it.

Your explanation makes sense but also doesn't make sense.

Part of my brain is trying to think this is fake and you're making it up. Not that I'm calling you a liar! That's not what I mean. I think maybe my brain is too knotted up about all of this to make sense of it right now.

You just... you didn't feel jealous at all?
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-26 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like you're living a fairy tale.

Honestly that girl sounds like an amazing person, I wish I could be like that.

Nothing against her, but I really cannot imagine my friend being like that. I know she cares about me, but there's no way she would be like 'yeah, totally, we should both date this guy we like'

I don't know if that's even what I would want to hear, though? She got there first. That doesn't feel good. But I guess there's more to it than that.

I know them from home. I tried so hard to get this guy to ask me out, I was more obvious than I should have been comfortable with, you know? I took a risk, there, and I set myself up to not really have other options, and it never went anywhere. He never asked anyone out, that I know of.

And then here... I guess it's different, here, but.

I'm thinking myself in circles, sorry. This isn't your problem. Thanks for sharing.
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[personal profile] pidgeypidge 2019-08-26 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I might have to take you up on that.
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-26 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense. It is nice to know you share a perspective with someone, especially if it's a thing that makes you feel isolated or abnormal.

I feel like you know me too well already and you don't even know who I am! Stop that! It... absolutely does feel like that. Getting there first is winning, being second means you're just a fill-in. I was so fixated on him for so long, I didn't want to give up the hope or I'd feel like I wasted so much. Not that I don't value his friendship, of course! Just, you know, how limited options seem, back home.

That whole "purity" thing. It's definitely like relating girls to hand-me-downs. Ugh, that's so gross! I hate it so much! But I play right into it! I have my whole life!
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[personal profile] betheirstrength 2019-08-27 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
"Playing whatever role people wanted me to fill" huh. You could be the same as me, then.

[A boy idol? Possibly, he hasn't said anything to contradict.]

There's a lot to think about in general. I should... try to re-evaluate what I think their perspective might be, though. I guess I don't know what anyone else is thinking...

[She doesn't actually know what's going through Chie and Souji's heads.]

Sounds like you've had some direct experience with these things.

It would be nice... to not be so caught up in the idea of purity. To not feel like I have to just keep myself available for anyone in the world by denying myself. I just... always thought I'd have to be sneaky about it. You know?
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[personal profile] fridgeninja 2019-08-27 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. That makes it hard to test.

I'd offer, but I'm probably not a very good test subject.
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[personal profile] fridgeninja 2019-08-27 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I hadn't even begun to guess at your secret identity.
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[personal profile] panthered 2019-08-27 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
That's true! The place I visited the most at home always had the freshest coffee. And it smelled so good... even if you don't like to drink coffee that smell is just too good. You never really get that at chain places.

It sounds like you've had a lot of jerks in your life. Someone who actually cares cares about you being hurt, too, even if it means they have to swallow their pride and apologize.

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